GREETINGS ALL,

This page contains the identical VIN data found on the first "problem VIN" page.  On the first page I wrote about how some of the apparent errors may have come about.  On this page, I will offer speculation on specific VINs and their potential relationships to one another.  Please keep in mind that this is all speculation.  I am simply filling in blanks until additional information comes available.

SPREADSHEET SECTION            Prior to Run #1 and Run #1

NUMBER OF VINS IN RUN           1

NUMBER OF CARS ON LIST        1

DUPLICATED VINS                      n/a

MISSING VINS                             n/a

DISCUSSION/HYPOTHETICAL SOLUTIONS

There are no cars on the list with a VIN lower than 149789.  This car stands alone as the only car delivered to Clairpointe on the earliest date recorded on the list - 10/17.  It was a full week until the second car was delivered on 10/24.  I suspect this was a "pilot car" of sorts used as a test run for the finishing process.  It may have also been a prototype.  I have no knowledge of what happened to this car.

SPREADSHEET SECTION            Prior to Run #2 and Run #2

NUMBER OF VINS IN RUN           10

NUMBER OF CARS ON LIST        9

DUPLICATED VINS                       0

MISSING VINS                             1

DISCUSSION/HYPOTHETICAL SOLUTIONS

There are no VINs on the NASCAR list that fall between the first run of 1 VIN and the second run of 10 VINs.  There is one VIN in this run that does not show up on the NASCAR list.  I have no information on this car.  It would be easy to confuse this run of 9 consecutive VINs with the run of 9 cars delivered between 10/24 and 11/3 but the VINs just don't match up.

SPREADSHEET SECTION            Prior to Run #3 and Run #3

NUMBER OF VINS IN RUN           30

NUMBER OF CARS ON LIST        30

DUPLICATED VINS                       2

MISSING VINS                             2

DISCUSSION/HYPOTHETICAL SOLUTIONS

There are no cars on the NASCAR list that fall between runs #2 and #3.  In this run are two VINs that show up twice on the list.  Also in this run are two VINs that appear to be missing.  The logical, but potentially erroneous, explanation is that the two duplicated VINs represent cars that were counted twice and the two missing VINs were cars that were not counted at all.  This could have been an intentional correction to a situation where two cars were shipped before their VINs could be recorded and someone suggested that two present cars be counted twice.  Or, it could have been due to any number of other factors.  If we knew how the arrival dates and departure dates were tracked at Clairpointe, a great number of questions could be answered.  One of the two missing VINs has been verified through other sources to be a real Superbird.

 

SPREADSHEET SECTION           Prior to Run #4 and Run #4

NUMBER OF VINS IN RUN          60

NUMBER OF CARS ON LIST       59

DUPLICATED VINS                      0

MISSING VINS                            1

DISCUSSION/HYPOTHETICAL SOLUTIONS

There are no cars on the NASCAR list that fall between run #3 and run #4.  Run #4 is fairly straightforward.  There is only one missing VIN.  That is, there is only one VIN from this run that does not show up on the NASCAR list.  I have no confirmation of the existence of this car and the digits don't offer any obvious answers as to why this car does not show up.  For now - unknown.

SPREADSHEET SECTION           Prior to Run #5 and Run #5

NUMBER OF VINS IN RUN          1 + 61

NUMBER OF CARS ON LIST       1 + 58

DUPLICATED VINS                      1

MISSING VINS                            4

DISCUSSION/HYPOTHETICAL SOLUTIONS

This is where things start to get messy.  158744 is a car that has been confirmed to exist but falls between the runs of numbers defined by the NASCAR list.  It also does not show up on the list.  As we will see later, this is the type of car that presents the most difficulty.  Duplicate VINs, Missing VINs and List cars between runs all have plausible explanations.  But, those cars like 158744 open a whole new area of speculation.  Also between Run #4 and Run #5 is 160637.  This car does show up on the list.  Its VIN is suspiciously similar to a missing VIN nearby - 160687.  Inside Run #5 we have four missing VINs and one duplicate VIN.  Two of the missing VINs have been confirmed as actual Superbirds.  If 160637 is really an incorrectly recorded 160687 then only one missing VIN in this run is unaccounted for.  And that could be offset by the duplicate - although the numbers 12 and 29 don't seem like logical clerical error material.  Adding to the mystery is the R code and U code variance in the duplicate VIN.

SPREADSHEET SECTION          Prior to Run #6 and Run #6

NUMBER OF VINS IN RUN         51

NUMBER OF CARS ON LIST      50

DUPLICATED VINS                     1

MISSING VINS                           2

DISCUSSION/HYPOTHETICAL SOLUTIONS

There are no known cars that fall between Run #5 and Run #6.  Inside Run #6 are two missing VINs and one duplicate VIN.  The numbers involved are ripe for mistakes.  558, 558, 585, 588 are the sequences in question.  If you want an experiment in how easy it is to have errors of this type, just read a page of the original NASCAR list out loud to someone else for them to record on paper.  Go back and check your results.  Unless you are annoying careful, there will be errors.  The duplicated VIN could account for one of the missing VINs very easily but I am not sure about the second missing VIN.

SPREADSHEET SECTION          Prior to Run #7 and Run #7

NUMBER OF VINS IN RUN         108

NUMBER OF CARS ON LIST      108

DUPLICATED VINS                     2

MISSING VINS                           2

DISCUSSION/HYPOTHETICAL SOLUTIONS

There are no cars that fall between Run #6 and Run #7.  Run #7 is easy in that it has two duplicated VINs and two missing VINs.  The simplest solution is that the two missing cars are the two duplicated cars.  We know that both of the missing cars do in fact exist.  The only thing I can't figure out is how 304 and 305 are confused with 322 and 339.  Unless this was just a convenience correction of a couple of cars that missed being recorded.  Keep in mind that this correction scenario is a complete fabrication on my part.  I have no evidence that such a scenario ever took place.  It is merely a plausible situation given how best laid plans for perfection are frequently "modified" in real world situations.

SPREADSHEET SECTION          Prior to Run #8 and Run #8

NUMBER OF VINS IN RUN         1 + 52

NUMBER OF CARS ON LIST      1 + 50

DUPLICATED VINS                     2

MISSING VINS                           4

DISCUSSION/HYPOTHETICAL SOLUTIONS

There is one car from the NASCAR list that falls between Run #7 and Run #8.  It is car number 163415.  It is very possible that this is missing car number 165415 from Run #10.  Additional support for this idea comes from the arrival and departure dates of the cars with VINs around this one.  The dates fit much better with the cars in Run #10 than with the earlier cars of the 163??? series.  Inside Run #8 are two duplicated VINs and four missing VINs.  We know two of the missing VINs represent real Superbirds not on the list.  I have no explanation for the other two missing cars.

SPREADSHEET SECTION          Prior to Run #9 and Run #9

NUMBER OF VINS IN RUN          72

NUMBER OF CARS ON LIST      73

DUPLICATED VINS                     1

MISSING VINS                            0

DISCUSSION/HYPOTHETICAL SOLUTIONS

 

SPREADSHEET SECTION          Prior to Run #10 and Run #10

NUMBER OF VINS IN RUN          84

NUMBER OF CARS ON LIST       81

DUPLICATED VINS                      0

MISSING VINS                            3

DISCUSSION/HYPOTHETICAL SOLUTIONS

 

SPREADSHEET SECTION            Prior to Run #11 and Run #11

NUMBER OF VINS IN RUN          1

NUMBER OF CARS ON LIST        0

DUPLICATED VINS                                    0

MISSING VINS                                0

DISCUSSION/HYPOTHETICAL SOLUTIONS

 

SPREADSHEET SECTION           Prior to Run #12 and Run #12

NUMBER OF VINS IN RUN          1

NUMBER OF CARS ON LIST        0

DUPLICATED VINS                                    0

MISSING VINS                                0

DISCUSSION/HYPOTHETICAL SOLUTIONS

 

SPREADSHEET SECTION           Prior to Run #13 and Run #13

NUMBER OF VINS IN RUN          1

NUMBER OF CARS ON LIST        0

DUPLICATED VINS                                    0

MISSING VINS                                0

DISCUSSION/HYPOTHETICAL SOLUTIONS

 

SPREADSHEET SECTION           Prior to Run #14 and Run #14

NUMBER OF VINS IN RUN          1

NUMBER OF CARS ON LIST        0

DUPLICATED VINS                                    0

MISSING VINS                                0

DISCUSSION/HYPOTHETICAL SOLUTIONS

 

SPREADSHEET SECTION           Prior to Run #15 and Run #15

NUMBER OF VINS IN RUN          1

NUMBER OF CARS ON LIST        0

DUPLICATED VINS                                    0

MISSING VINS                                0

DISCUSSION/HYPOTHETICAL SOLUTIONS

This section is free of any questionable VINs or issues.

SPREADSHEET SECTION           Prior to Run #16 and Run #16

NUMBER OF VINS IN RUN          1

NUMBER OF CARS ON LIST        0

DUPLICATED VINS                                    0

MISSING VINS                                0

DISCUSSION/HYPOTHETICAL SOLUTIONS

 

SPREADSHEET SECTION           Prior to Run #17 and Run #17

NUMBER OF VINS IN RUN          1

NUMBER OF CARS ON LIST        0

DUPLICATED VINS                                    0

MISSING VINS                                0

DISCUSSION/HYPOTHETICAL SOLUTIONS

This section is free of any questionable VINs or issues.

SPREADSHEET SECTION           Prior to Run #18 and Run #18

NUMBER OF VINS IN RUN          1

NUMBER OF CARS ON LIST        0

DUPLICATED VINS                                    0

MISSING VINS                                0

DISCUSSION/HYPOTHETICAL SOLUTIONS

 

SPREADSHEET SECTION           Prior to Run #19 and Run #19

NUMBER OF VINS IN RUN          1

NUMBER OF CARS ON LIST        0

DUPLICATED VINS                                    0

MISSING VINS                                0

DISCUSSION/HYPOTHETICAL SOLUTIONS

This section is free of any questionable VINs or issues.

SPREADSHEET SECTION           Prior to Run #20 and Run #20

NUMBER OF VINS IN RUN          1

NUMBER OF CARS ON LIST        0

DUPLICATED VINS                                    0

MISSING VINS                                0

DISCUSSION/HYPOTHETICAL SOLUTIONS

 

SPREADSHEET SECTION           Prior to Run #21 and Run #21

NUMBER OF VINS IN RUN          1

NUMBER OF CARS ON LIST        0

DUPLICATED VINS                                    0

MISSING VINS                                0

DISCUSSION/HYPOTHETICAL SOLUTIONS

 

SPREADSHEET SECTION           Prior to Run #22 and Run #22

NUMBER OF VINS IN RUN          1

NUMBER OF CARS ON LIST        0

DUPLICATED VINS                                    0

MISSING VINS                                0

DISCUSSION/HYPOTHETICAL SOLUTIONS

 

SPREADSHEET SECTION           Prior to Run #23 and Run #23

NUMBER OF VINS IN RUN          1

NUMBER OF CARS ON LIST        0

DUPLICATED VINS                                    0

MISSING VINS                                0

DISCUSSION/HYPOTHETICAL SOLUTIONS

 

SPREADSHEET SECTION           Prior to Run #24 and Run #24

NUMBER OF VINS IN RUN          1

NUMBER OF CARS ON LIST        0

DUPLICATED VINS                                    0

MISSING VINS                                0

DISCUSSION/HYPOTHETICAL SOLUTIONS

 

SPREADSHEET SECTION           Prior to Run #25 and Run #25

NUMBER OF VINS IN RUN          7

NUMBER OF CARS ON LIST       7

DUPLICATED VINS                      0

MISSING VINS                            0

DISCUSSION/HYPOTHETICAL SOLUTIONS

This section is free of any questionable VINs or issues.

SPREADSHEET SECTION           Prior to Run #26 and Run #26

NUMBER OF VINS IN RUN          1

NUMBER OF CARS ON LIST        0

DUPLICATED VINS                                    0

MISSING VINS                                0

DISCUSSION/HYPOTHETICAL SOLUTIONS

 

SPREADSHEET SECTION           Prior to Run #27 and Run #27

NUMBER OF VINS IN RUN          1

NUMBER OF CARS ON LIST        0

DUPLICATED VINS                                    0

MISSING VINS                                0

DISCUSSION/HYPOTHETICAL SOLUTIONS

 

SPREADSHEET SECTION           Prior to Run #28 and Run #28

NUMBER OF VINS IN RUN          6

NUMBER OF CARS ON LIST       6

DUPLICATED VINS                      0

MISSING VINS                            0

DISCUSSION/HYPOTHETICAL SOLUTIONS

This section is free of any questionable VINs or issues.

SPREADSHEET SECTION           Prior to Run #29 and Run #29

NUMBER OF VINS IN RUN          23

NUMBER OF CARS ON LIST       22

DUPLICATED VINS                      0

MISSING VINS                            1

DISCUSSION/HYPOTHETICAL SOLUTIONS

There is only one missing VIN in the final run.  It has been identified as the factory cheated-up drag car.  It is a true Hemi street configuration Superbird taken from the line and extensively modified to compete in one of the closer-to-stock classes of drag racing.  It was probably not included in the NASCAR list count because it was never offered for sale to the public as a conventional use vehicle and, therefore, would not meet the NASCAR criteria.

SPREADSHEET SECTION           After Run #29

NUMBER OF VINS IN RUN          1

NUMBER OF CARS ON LIST        0

DUPLICATED VINS                                    0

MISSING VINS                                0

DISCUSSION/HYPOTHETICAL SOLUTIONS

181274 is the highest numeric VIN in the NASCAR list.  I have not encountered any cars with a higher VIN number.  With almost 40% of the cars accounted for in some form at some time I believe that, if higher VIN cars did exist, at least one would have shown up.  We can only wait and see.


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0DateDateVINRunning
0VINRecShippedRunTotal
0
149788
1RM23V0A14978917-OctFri19-DecFriRun 111
149790
149851
51RM23V0A1498526-Nov13-Nov
?RM23?0A149855Unknown car, No
23RM23V0A1498615-NovWed11-NovRun 21011
149862
155773
334RM23R0A15577414-Nov19-Nov
14RM23U0A1557794-Nov11-NovThere are two duplicate
6RM23V0A1557793-NovMon14-Novvins and two missing
9RM23U0A1557803-Nov13-Novsequential vins in this sequence
82RM23U0A1557807-Nov12-NovOffset each other?
?RM23?0A155781Joe Ward list
?RM23?0A155791Unknown Car
86RM23V0A1558037-Nov14-NovRun 33041
155804
158576
120RM23R0A15857710-Nov10-Nov
?RM23?0A158629Unknown Car
911RM23U0A15863626-Nov28-NovRun 460101
158637
?RM23U0A158744Joe Ward listKnown car101
280RM23U0A16063713-Nov14-NovUnknown car
This is probably the missing 160687 below.
160685
85RM23U0A1606867-Nov12-Nov
?RM23?0A160687Car 280?Probably recorded as 160637
?RM23U0A160688Joe Ward listCar 199?
396RM23R0A16071214-Nov18-Nov
397RM23U0A16071214-Nov17-Nov
?RM23?0A160729Unknown Car
?RM23U0A160730Joe Ward list
115RM23U0A16074610-Nov11-NovRun 561162
160747
161554
170RM23U0A16155511-Nov12-Nov
178RM23U0A16155811-Nov12-NovOne of these is most likely the
43RM23V0A1615586-Nov11-Novmissing 161585 or 161588
?RM23U0A161585Either 178 or 43 
?RM23U0A161588Joe Ward ListEither 178 or 43
216RM23U0A16160512-Nov13-NovRun 651213
161606
162274
245RM23R0A16227513-Nov13-Nov
?RM23V0A162304Joe Ward List
?RM23R0A162308Joe Ward List
164RM23V0A16232211-Nov12-Nov
165RM23V0A16232211-Nov12-Nov
213RM23V0A16233912-Nov13-Nov
214RM23V0A16233912-Nov13-Nov
388RM23V0A16238214-Nov19-NovRun 7108321
162383
725RM23U0A16341521-Nov25-NovUnknown car321
163446
426RM23U0A16344717-Nov17-Nov
207RM23U0A16345812-Nov13-Nov
225RM23U0A16345812-Nov13-Nov
252RM23U0A16348013-Nov13-Nov
299RM23U0A16348013-Nov13-Nov
?RM23U0A163483Joe Ward List
?RM23?0A163488Unknown Car
?RM23U0A163493Joe Ward List
?RM23?0A163497Unknown Car
258RM23U0A16349813-Nov13-NovRun 852373
163499
164595
112RM23U0A16459610-Nov11-Nov
328RM23U0A16462114-Nov17-Nov
329RM23U0A16462114-Nov17-Nov
690RM23U0A16466721-Nov24-NovRun 972445
164668
165357
381RM23U0A16535814-Nov17-Nov
?RM23?0A165388Unknown Car
?RM23U0A165399Joe Ward List
?RM23?0A165415Unknown Car
322RM23U0A16544114-NovFri14-NovRun 1084529
165442
935RM23U0A16589926-Nov28-NovUnknown car Almost529
certainly 165399
166147
417RM23V0A16614817-Nov17-Nov
398RM23U0A16615614-Nov18-Nov
399RM23U0A16615614-Nov17-Nov
1054RM23U0A1662541-Dec2-DecRun 11107636
166255          
               

               
?RM23U0A166407Joe Ward List
?RM23U0A166711Joe Ward List
659RM23U0A16702020-Nov24-NovUnknown car636
503RM23U0A16703018-Nov20-NovUnknown car636
167045
497RM23V0A16704618-Nov18-Nov
?RM23?0A167064Unknown Car
784RM23V0A16716724-Nov26-NovRun 12122758
167168
?RM23U0A167714Jim 
?RM23U0A167833Joe Ward List
1102RM23U0A1678582-Dec3-DecUnknown car758
167880
480RM23V0A16788118-Nov18-Nov
705RM23V0A16797021-Nov26-NovRun 1390848
167971
?RM23V0A167982Joe Ward List
168701
669RM23V0A16870220-Nov21-Nov
?RM23?0A168723Almost certainly 168728 duplicate below
1372RM23U0A1687285-Dec8-Dec
1691RM23U0A16872811-Dec12-DecCould be 168758
?RM23?0A168758Could be 168728
1146RM23U0A1687592-Dec3-DecDuplicate - Unknown Car
835RM23U0A16877625-Nov26-NovRun 1475921
168777
169427
688RM23U0A16942821-Nov21-Nov
715RM23V0A16949821-Nov26-NovRun 1571994
169499
170159
751RM23U0A17016024-Nov24-Nov
?RM23?0A170186Jim Bagshaw - Ebay
?RM23?0A170203Unknown Car
1291RM23V0A1702394-Dec5-DecRun 16801074
170240
170808
1079RM23U0A1708092-Dec2-Dec
834RM23V0A17089525-Nov26-NovRun 17871161
170896
171572
830RM23V0A17157325-Nov26-Nov
?RM23?0A171623Car 823 ?Unknown Car
?RM23U0A171681Jim Bagshaw
?RM23?0A171682Almost Certainly car number 1256 
865RM23V0A17168325-Nov28-Nov1716?2 with smudged type.
1057RM23U0A1716841-Dec2-DecThese duplicated vins could be
1316RM23U0A1716845-Dec5-Dec2 legitimate cars - factory mistake?
812RM23V0A17168525-Nov25-NovRun 181131274
171686
172583
1414RM23R0A1725848-Dec9-Dec
1887RM23V0A17266116-Dec17-DecRun 19781352
172662
173744
1259RM23U0A1737454-Dec4-Dec
1239RM23U0A1737544-Dec4-Dec
1281RM23U0A1737544-Dec10-Dec
1220RM23U0A1737553-Dec4-Dec
?RM23U0A173756Joe Ward List
1367RM23U0A1737575-Dec8-Dec
1262RM23U0A1737584-Dec4-Dec
1244RM23U0A1737594-Dec5-Dec
1245RM23U0A1737594-Dec5-Dec
1505RM23U0A1737909-Dec10-DecRun 20461398
173791
174545
1295RM23U0A1745464-Dec5-Dec
1439RM23U0A1745468-Dec8-Dec
1376RM23U0A1745505-Dec8-Dec
1440RM23U0A1745508-Dec9-Dec
?RM23?0A174579Unknown Car - 1914?
1180RM23V0A1746253-Dec4-DecRun 21801478
174626
?RM23U0A174675Joe Ward List        
               

               
1763RM23U0A17513912-Dec
15-DecUnknown car

1478



















175544









1844RM23U0A17554515-Dec
16-Dec






?RM23?0A175546


Almost certainly duplicate 174546
?RM23U0A175550Joe Ward List
Almost certainly duplicate 174550
1599RM23R0A17559310-Dec
11-Dec






1600RM23U0A17559310-Dec
11-Dec






?RM23U0A175614Joe Ward List







?RM23?0A175639



Update - Owned by Rich 2010/02/01




?RM23?0A175640



Unknown Car



1537RM23U0A1756949-Dec
11-Dec

Run 22150
1628




175695
























?RM23U0A176622Joe Ward List


























176655









1711RM23U0A17665612-Dec
16-Dec






1703RM23U0A17666712-Dec
12-Dec






1814RM23U0A17666715-Dec
17-Dec






?RM23?0A176668



Almost certainly one of the 
1742RM23R0A17666912-Dec
17-Dec
176667 duplicates


1547RM23U0A17667010-Dec
11-Dec






1631RM23U0A17667111-Dec
11-Dec






?RM23U0A176672Joe Ward List, Jim Bagshaw





1743RM23U0A17668212-Dec
16-Dec

Run 2327
1655




176683
























1848RM23U0A17671415-Dec
16-DecUnknown car

1655















1806RM23U0A17751015-Dec
16-DecUnknown car

1655



















177559









1916RM23U0A17756016-Dec
18-Dec






?RM23U0A177570Joe Ward List, Jim Bagshaw





1235RM23V0A1775984-Dec
4-Dec






?RM23?0A177599



Unknown Car



1708RM23U0A17760012-Dec
16-Dec






?RM23?0A177601



Unknown Car



1241RM23V0A1776134-Dec
4-Dec

Run 2454
1709




177614




























178063









1479RM23V0A1780649-Dec
9-Dec






1462RM23V0A1780709-DecTue10-Dec

Run 257
1716




178071
























?RM23U0A178532Joe Ward List






















1861RM23U0A17859915-Dec
16-DecUnknown car






















178619









1481RM23U0A1786209-Dec
9-Dec






?RM23?0A178652



Unknown Car



1549RM23U0A17867810-Dec
11-Dec






1550RM23U0A17867810-Dec
11-DecAlmost certainly 176678


1480RM23U0A1786859-Dec
10-Dec

Run 2666
1782




178686
























1670RM23U0A17885211-Dec
15-DecUnknown car


















1120RM23U0A1791862-Dec
3-DecUnknown car






















179686









1534RM23R0A1796879-Dec
10-Dec






1575RM23V0A17971810-Dec
11-Dec






1800RM23V0A17971815-Dec
16-Dec






?RM23V0A179719Joe Ward List
Almost certainly 179718 duplicate
1899RM23R0A17978216-Dec
17-Dec






1900RM23U0A17978216-Dec
17-Dec






1543RM23R0A17980010-Dec
10-Dec

Run 27114
1896




179801




























180650









1812RM23R0A18065115-Dec
15-Dec






1628RM23V0A18065611-Dec
11-Dec

Run 286
1902




180657




























181251









1886RM23V0A18125216-Dec
17-Dec






?RM23?0A181257Jim Bagshaw - Cheater Drag Car




1771RM23U0A18127412-Dec
15-Dec

Run 2923
1925




181275
























823RM23V0A171562325-Nov17162326-Nov







Almost certainly missing number 171623


Total1925













This 1925 total is
1914RM23U0A174579816-Dec17457917-Dec


reached if all the

Almost certainly missing number 174579



vin numbers from











all the "runs" are
199RM23U0A16088?12-Nov16068813-Nov


added up and all

Almost certainly missing number 160688



the duplicates, 











missing and outside
1256RM23U0A1716?24-Dec1718844-Dec


run vins are ignored.

Almost certainly missing number 171682        
               


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